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		<title>what is &#8216;experimental&#8217; music?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How an unconventional music workshop opened up a can of (beautiful) worms. Hint: beauty is in the eye of the beholder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attended an off-beat music appreciation workshop this last Saturday, at the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">very</span> grassrootsey <a title="Montreal Freeschool" href="http://montrealfreeschool.org/">Montreal Freeschool</a> (if you&#8217;re in Montreal, you might want to check out the <a title="Montreal Freeschool Workshop Listings" href="http://montrealfreeschool.org/workshops/">current workshop offering</a>).</p>
<p>The workshop? <em>Listening to Experimental Music</em>, presented by <a title="Feast of Spirits" href="http://www.myspace.com/feastofspirits">Anna-Luisa Daigneault</a>. Here&#8217;s the write-up:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="background-color: #ffcc00;">What does listening to music do to the brain? Why does certain music sound â€œprettyâ€ and other music doesnâ€™t</span>?</p>
<p>We will be listening to many kinds of contemporary experimental music from all over the world, and discussing how this music makes us feel and think of.</p></blockquote>
<p>Experimental music. Art music. Ancient folkways. Freeform music. I&#8217;ve often heard people ask: &#8220;why bother listening to music like this&#8221;?</p>
<p>That is: <span style="background-color: #ffff99;">why listen to music that seems to be &#8220;unpleasant&#8221; and &#8220;unintelligible&#8221; </span><em style="background-color: #ffff99;">by design?</em> Isn&#8217;t the role of music to uplift the human spirit, to express emotions, to provide solace in a world of stress and uncertainty. In brief: to be beautiful and&#8230; <em>recognizable</em>? Kinda like the human face, in all its varieties of aesthetic (un)appeal?</p>
<p>Turns out there&#8217;s a rotten old clichÃ© to sum up this controversy: <strong>beauty is in the eye of the beholder</strong>. And as the workshop theme proposes: beyond the merely beautiful, can music also be a way of probing the lesser-charted areas of the human psyche, as a &#8220;spiritual&#8221; language unto its own?</p>
<p>Perhaps <span style="background-color: #ffff99;">in this sense the label &#8220;experimental&#8221; is actually useful and descriptive: the &#8220;use of&#8221; music for psychological exploration</span>. I say this because the term &#8220;experimental&#8221; in the art world has always seemed a wide open definition to me. For example, you&#8217;ll hear &#8220;experimental&#8221; as a way of invoking:</p>
<ul>
<li>&#8220;non-conventional&#8221; music, or music that &#8220;plays with <em><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">musica</span>l</em> conventions&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;non-mainstream&#8221;music</li>
<li>experiments in artistic form</li>
<li>freeform/free improvisation</li>
<li>technical experimentations</li>
</ul>
<p>All these ideas typically point to revolutions and experiments in <em>form</em>. To me this position ultimately leads to an <a title="regress argument" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regress_argument">infinite regress</a>, as <a title="musical form" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_form">form</a> is constantly evolving in any musical tradition. So in the end I&#8217;ve come to see most stances of &#8220;formal experimentation&#8221; as being academic in value.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s my preamble. Indeed, I came to the workshop curious about what musical selections would be on the &#8220;experimental&#8221; play list. And esp. what issues would be open for discussion.</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold">your workshop is your passion<br />
</span></p>
<p>As is often the case in ad-hoc educational formats, workshop offerings depend on the available expertise of a given community. Quirky workshops topics exist by virtue of an individual&#8217;s passion for a given subject, so attending a workshop means&#8230; getting to know someone&#8217;s passion.</p>
<p>Turns out Anna-Luisa&#8217;s passion for &#8220;experimental music&#8221; was both genuine and lots of fun. Anna-Luisa&#8217;s academic background is in <a title="linguistics" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics">linguistics</a> (with a side serving of <a title="neuropsychology" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuropsychology">neuropsychology</a>). Her artistic ambitions though seem pretty wide ranging, and she&#8217;s given strong consideration to her speculative questions on the nature and meaning of musical experience over the course of years of studying, performing, and especially listening to music.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://amateurmusicians.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/anna-luisa_discussion.jpg" alt="Anna-Luisa Daigneault workshop discussion" width="475" height="356" /></p>
<p>Workshop highlights:</p>
<ul>
<li>how to research music, off the beaten path</li>
<li>what are the most compelling questions one can ask of music</li>
<li>music, language and the brain</li>
<li>the human breathing and vocal apparatus, and pitch overtones. great Tibetan throat chant demo by workshop participant Marc Matatya!</li>
<li>the philosophy of music</li>
<li>listening to crazy stuff!</li>
</ul>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold">listening eclectically&#8230; </span></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the workshop playlist (with a few mp3 samples).</p>
<p><a title="Tuvan Throat Singing Music" href="http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/46692-new-from-dust-to-digital-field-recordings-tuvan-throat-singing-global-music-old-music-"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">Mansthurek</span> &#8211; Oorjak Hunashtaar-Ool</a><a title="CD: Melodii Tuvi" href="http://www.venerablemusic.com/catalog/TitleDetails.asp?TitleID=13221"> </a><br />
(sample) [audio:mansthurek_sample.mp3]</p>
<p><a title="CD: Melodii Tuvi" href="http://www.venerablemusic.com/catalog/TitleDetails.asp?TitleID=13221"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">Na Letnye Pastbishtsha</span> &#8211; Kara-Kys Munzuk</a></p>
<p><a title="Stage Fright, by Carl Stalling" href="http://musicbrainz.org/track/3d7705bd-e7bd-46a3-af0b-fe8645185366.html"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">Stage Fright</span> &#8211; Carl Stalling</a><br />
(sample) [audio:stage_fright_sample.mp3]</p>
<p>(2 selections) &#8211; <a title="Moondog info" href="http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=64522">Moondog</a></p>
<p>(2 selections) &#8211; <a title="Sun Ra info" href="http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=32116">Sun Ra and his Archestra</a></p>
<p><a title="Diana, by Comus" href="http://musicbrainz.org/track/fcc192d1-cbf4-4bb9-a2b5-18ac5865c105.html"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">Diana</span> &#8211; Comus</a></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic"><a title="Parable of the Mustard Seed - The Trees" href="http://musicbrainz.org/track/2c9ad676-6070-4014-b557-ab94458cac22.html">Parable of the Mustard Seed &#8211; The Trees</a></span><br />
(sample) [audio:parable_sample.mp3]</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold">beauty, for the mind unhinged </span></p>
<p><span style="background-color: #ffff99;">Reviewing the eclectic selections, the shared trait seems to be, from the point of view of conventional listener expectations: music that &#8220;unhinges the mind&#8221;, inducing altered states of consciousness</span>.</p>
<p>In closing, for all your brain and soul spelunkers, I&#8217;d like to list Anna-Luisa&#8217;s research muses for further consideration:</p>
<ul>
<li>religious mode of language, or the poetics of ritual speech</li>
<li>chanting, song, ritual, using a comparative cultural approach</li>
<li>trance-inducing music and speech</li>
<li>what is musical inspiration? where does it &#8220;come from&#8221;?</li>
<li>poetry and sound</li>
<li>voice and &#8220;possession&#8221;</li>
<li>experiments in musical pitch: extreme musical intervals</li>
</ul>
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		<title>Lasse Gjertsen &#8211; musical automaton</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gillesroy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to some clever editing, Lasse Gjertsen finally proves to the world that he's got rhythm. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a Youtube clip of film editing boy wonder Lasse Gjertsen, as a musician. A humorous demonstration of techno-beat artistry using clever film loop &#8220;mixing&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amateurmusicians.net/2006/11/22/lasse-gjertsen-musical-automaton/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>The moral of the story: if a non-instrumentalist such as Lasse can edit out his performance mistakes to make a song, so can you! Of course if you just want to mix beats and notes, you can always go the way of the DJ, and dispense with musical instruments altogether.</p>
<p>Or if you&#8217;re a bips and beats kineticist, get rid of your turntables and mix your own funny noises, like <a title="Lasse Gjertsen" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm8PHnaeJ-M&amp;mode=related&amp;search=" target="_blank">Lasse</a>.</p>
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